Практические решения для выживания коренного населения: что делать
Источник: https://nickgriffin544956.substack.com/p/actionable-solutions-for-indigenous
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В этом интервью с ведущей Керри Хопкинс бывший депутат Европарламента и экс-лидер Британской национальной партии (БНП) Ник Гриффин представляет широкий набор практических решений, направленных на укрепление общинной самоорганизации коренных жителей Великобритании. Гриффин исходит из тезиса о том, что парламентских путей решения экзистенциального кризиса западного мира не существует, и призывает людей действовать самостоятельно, в рамках своих семей и местных сообществ, не дожидаясь помощи от политиков вроде Найджела Фаража или Руперта Лоу.
Разговор охватывает множество конкретных инициатив: от юридической борьбы за права коренного населения и общинных патрулей до создания местных центров взаимопомощи и неформальных систем обучения ремёслам. Гриффин неоднократно ссылается на опыт Северной Ирландии, где лоялистская и католическая общины выработали успешные стратегии сохранения идентичности в условиях меньшинства, и предлагает перенести этот опыт на всю Великобританию.
Юридическая борьба и права коренного населения
Первым направлением действий Гриффин называет «юридическую войну» (lawfare) за права англичан как коренного народа. Он указывает, что в Великобритании существуют тысячи благотворительных организаций для различных этнических и социальных групп, однако попытки создать благотворительный фонд для англичан неизменно блокируются. В качестве примера успешной юридической борьбы он приводит деятельность солиситора Робина Тилбрука, который добился сотен тысяч фунтов компенсации для жертв «грумерских банд» и заставил муниципальные советы снимать радужные флаги или вывешивать наряду с ними английский флаг Святого Георгия. Гриффин утверждает, что положение об «англичанах как коренном народе» является защищённой характеристикой в рамках существующего законодательства о равенстве, и нужно заставить власти применять собственные законы.
Опыт Северной Ирландии и общинная самоорганизация
Значительную часть беседы Гриффин посвящает урокам Северной Ирландии, где обе общины — лоялистская протестантская и католическая республиканская — разработали эффективные механизмы сохранения идентичности. На католической стороне это создание Гэльской атлетической ассоциации и возрождение ирландских национальных видов спорта вместо «игр оккупантов». На лоялистской стороне ключевую роль сыграли маршевые оркестры: около 800 оркестров из 800-тысячного лоялистского населения, каждый из которых объединяет по 50-60 молодых людей, регулярно тренирующихся и выступающих вместе. Гриффин подчёркивает, что такие организации одновременно служат формой мирного самовыражения, механизмом общинной сплочённости и потенциальной основой для самообороны.
Он также упоминает деятельность рыцарей-тамплиеров в Северной Ирландии, которые восстановили заброшенное здание и создали офисный центр, часовню и учебное помещение с возможностью разместить 12-14 человек, что может служить убежищем для политических беженцев. Группа «Вудлендеры» приобретает участки английского леса для организации семейных выездов и детских лагерей исключительно для своего сообщества.
Общинные патрули и практика БНП
Гриффин подробно описывает эксперимент, проведённый в период его руководства БНП в городе Коутон близ Суиндона, где после закрытия полицейского участка резко выросла подростковая преступность. Партийная ячейка организовала «общинный наблюдательный патруль» из пяти-шести человек, в том числе бывших военных, которые несколько раз в неделю обходили район с блокнотами и камерами. Несмотря на первоначально враждебную реакцию полиции и СМИ, местные жители начали передавать патрулю информацию, которую не решались сообщить полиции. В итоге полиция вновь открыла участок, что было расценено Гриффином как успех эксперимента. По его данным, в настоящее время в Великобритании действует около 10-12 подобных групп, в том числе в Ланкашире и Борнмуте.
Концепция «общинных опорных пунктов»
Центральной практической идеей Гриффина является создание так называемых «общинных опорных пунктов» (community strong points) — физических зданий в рабочих районах, объединяющих несколько функций. В передней части такого здания размещается благотворительный магазин; в задней — небольшой спортзал для молодёжного бокса и тренировок; отдельный офис отводится под консультационный центр по образцу бывших советов Шинн Фейн в Северной Ирландии; а зал для собраний предоставляется различным местным группам. Несколько раз в месяц в таком центре организуются совместные обеды для пенсионеров, молодёжи и семей с детьми. Гриффин подчёркивает фундаментальную важность совместного приёма пищи и пения как скрепляющих общину практик, утраченных в современном обществе.
Во дворе такого центра могут организовываться неформальные мастер-классы, где вышедшие на пенсию водопроводчики, электрики и каменщики обучают молодёжь основам ремесла. Гриффин настаивает, что ручные профессии предпочтительнее университетского образования для молодых патриотов, поскольку рабочие специальности менее подвержены конкуренции со стороны искусственного интеллекта и «разнообразия» при найме.
Экономическая самодостаточность и службы такси
Среди дальнейших инициатив Гриффин предлагает создание общинных служб мини-такси, управляемых местными жителями, чтобы обеспечить безопасность женщин и молодёжи. Он указывает, что если не удастся юридически закрепить право на самоорганизацию подобного бизнеса, можно просто организовать неформальную систему взаимопомощи по перевозке внутри общины, которую невозможно запретить по закону.
Моральная сила vs. физическая сила
Завершая беседу, Гриффин формулирует ключевое концептуальное разграничение между «моральной силой» и «физической силой». Все описанные им инициативы — от общинных патрулей до юридической борьбы — представляют собой формы моральной силы, то есть ненасильственные методы коллективного действия. Физическая сила, по его убеждению, оправдана лишь как крайнее средство после полного исчерпания всех возможностей моральной силы. Он констатирует, что в настоящий момент организованное применение даже моральной силы в защиту коренного населения практически нигде не начато, и именно этим следует заняться в первую очередь.
Значимость
Данное интервью представляет собой наиболее детальное изложение практической программы Гриффина по общинной самоорганизации, выходящей за рамки традиционной электоральной политики. Его предложения заимствуют опыт ирландских общин, движения Шинн Фейн и даже структур «Братьев-мусульман», перенося их на контекст английского рабочего класса. Критика Руперта Лоу и движения Restore сочетается с прагматичным предложением использовать их массовую базу как площадку для рекрутирования. Обращение к демографическим прогнозам и модели будущей Великобритании как «общества меньшинств» задаёт идеологическую рамку, в которой организованная община становится не столько политическим проектом, сколько стратегией выживания.
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Actionable SOLUTIONS for Indigenous Survival. This Is What To Do.
Источник: https://nickgriffin544956.substack.com/p/actionable-solutions-for-indigenous
the uk and ireland are in dire straits right now with what's happening on the streets and in parliament so with me today is a former member of european parliament nick griffin who was also the leader of the british national national party today nick is a political strategist and advisor so today we're going to focus on purely solutions to help the people of england scotland ireland and wales now this advice might also help europeans canadians australians new zealanders south africans and even americans as well so let's get to it across the globe by millions and hello carrie good to be back with you
well Kerry the first thing people have to understand is there is no parliamentary solution to this if you're waiting for someone whether it's Nigel Farage or Rupert Lowe or the AFD in Germany or Marine Le Pen in France or someone in America if you're waiting for someone else to come and save you you're finished because there's no political solution to the existential crisis of the western world we've spoken about that before i won't go into it again so what i'm focused on overwhelmingly is persuading people that they must and should and easily can do things with their own families in their own lives and especially in their own communities which will massively increase their chances their families chances their community chance communities chances of coming through the the nightmare which is heading our way you know not necessarily without serious damage but getting through it this civilization is finished there will be a new one created by our people out of the wreckage that's where we have to be so and the more people who are organized to come through it the better off we will be so the very first thing is that um from our community we need i'm talking specifically about england but it's the case elsewhere as well we need from the young men and women of our community we need to create or find a team who will wage lawfare on our behalf because the english in particular we have zero rights as the indigenous people of our country when i speak from time to time with quite radical muslims who aren't particularly well disposed towards us for all sorts of historical reasons but when i tell them that do you realize that the english are not allowed to have a single charity in britain there's thousands tens of thousands charities in britain there's charities for every single different ethnic group sexual group whatever but you try and set up a charity for the english or for the english people of a certain area and it will be banned and if you try and do something for people who are white it will be done even quicker so this is a symptomatic of the way in which we the people of this country it's the same in most other european countries as well we the indigenous people the people whose ancestors built these countries the people who still pay taxes which keep everything going we do not have basic civil rights for ourselves so the first thing is a campaign to secure those and this can be done so in britain there's two two small groups in particular who've already said about this uh there's robin tilbrook and a couple of associates robin used to run a little tiny party called the english democrats but he's also a solicitor advocate and he's won in several cases hundreds of thousands of pounds compensation for young women who as young girls were the victims of racist muslim grooming gangs and even if the perpetrators had been jailed those women themselves had no compensation through the system so Robin has taken some of these maldoers to court and he's won and he's won these girls payouts by way of restitution totaling hundreds of thousands of pounds for each one so that shows what can be done he and one of the main pro-life groups in britain they've done work also on the flying of flags and until recently various left-wing councils and woke police agencies and so on police forces were all of them happily flying gay flags all the time or black pride uh black power uh not sorry not black power black lives matter flags but never a saint george cross flag for instance for the english or a union flag for the british and so robin and the pro-life team between them two different operations they've taken this to court in several different places and they force the councils either to take down flags which are not ours or to agree to put ours up as well so these are things that's only symbolic you know so securing compensation large amounts of compensation for the victims of grooming gangs is practical the question of flags is symbolic but it all goes to the question of lawfare the fact is that here in britain we've got a giant equal opportunities industry which uses the ideas of a parity of esteem for all different groups but because they've conned our people into just thinking that we're white and then they said that to try and campaign for white rights is automatically racist we shut out of this and if we can get our people into the habit of saying no it's not a matter of whiteness this is a matter of indigenous rights it's a matter of english rights british rights the english people being english is a protected characteristic under their laws but we've got to force them to apply their own laws or force them to change their laws so it then becomes very very clearly that there's equality for everybody except for us whether we secure the equality or force them to publicly state you don't have it because you're wretched english people british people americans french or whatever if we can force them to actually come out and say that that in itself is a sort of benefit because it will help to wake more people up so the the lawfare operation is one of the things that needs to be done that it really needs to be done by a small group whether it it could for instance be rupert lowe and restore and to be fair he's done very very good work with the grooming gang scandal so rupert lowe could pick that up and run with it a sort of a vanguard group a non-party political political group could pick it up and run with it ordinary people in their own local area you know not necessarily can but there's huge numbers of things which can be done by ordinary people in their own communities do you want me to carry on with this carry or do you want to come in with any questions or follow-ups
well i was just wondering if you had any idea when they did start banning english having their own charities that's
a very interesting question actually i'll have to i've worked closely with a retired solicitor on this as well i'll have to ask uh because the the honest answer is that i don't know It certainly goes back several decades. I know there was an organisation called the Steadfast Trust, which was specifically an English charity and that was banned on the basis that it broke all their rules. That's going about 10 years or more now. So it's been for quite some time.
Right, which is even worse then. Yeah, no please carry on this is really good for the viewers.
right well so the next thing is that there's also i'm not just talking theoretically here this is what we should do there's people already doing it i'll give you a couple of examples uh some of your english bridge viewers especially with will have come across the woodlanders i don't know if you have uh and this is a group of people ordinary decent working class people uh who've said look there's nowhere where we can go just for us you go to a public park and it's all the posters around it are you know multi cult and so on and if if there's any question of any kind of disturbance between a group of us and a group of them we're automatically guilty so we just want to go to somewhere which is just ours we want to take our kids to somewhere where we control who they mix with because in schools you're not allowed to in think any anything out there in any institution they insist that we have to mix and integrate with people who don't want to mix with to integrate with us with whom we don't want to integrate and i wouldn't force them to mix with us or accept our ways why should we take it the other way around so the woodlanders started off to say what if we could just afford to buy one together buy one patch of woodland of native indigenous lovely english woodlands just a few acres of it then have it just for us so we on our families go there for weekends and for summer camps and for extracurricular extra school activities and so on and sort of unofficial boy scouting operations things like that and a lot of people initially said it can't be done well they've now got several of these patches of land and more and more people saying yeah i know it doesn't revolutionize the country but it's a start because if young families can take their younger children away to something like that it starts to bring them up in the right way and with this tribal identity which everyone's going to get a tribal identity as our societies balkanize the key thing is that all the other tribes within our community within our society already have their tribal identity although it's insisted that there is english's you know you and i whatever uh the fact is that uh when they then said that flight say that flying the saint george cross flag offends them immediately we're not allowed to fly the george cross flag because it might offend them well that shows that they're not part of our tribe we know they're not part of our tribe everyone's tribal everyone's allowed to be tribal except for us so it's very very important that we develop this and having our children brought up not every day but just every now and again being able to do that it begins to give them the understanding that they're not just them one person not just them and their family they're part of a bigger collective whole which is about them it's their identity namely being english or uh southern states of america or swedish or whatever it's this thing would work for everybody that's one example another is a group uh the knights templars uh with whom i'm i'm involved and in northern ireland they've taken over a some years ago took over a really very derelict property They've now got an office centre, an administration and dispatch centre there, a small chapel, a training room.
And they're in the final stages now, it's still some months away of creating a whole priory house which will have sleep, the ability to sleep about 12 or 14 people. and so where people can come to there whether they're potentially political refugees who had to flee from somewhere else a few years ago they helped a you might possibly remember this there was a young woman filmed in on the hungarian serbian border and there were all these crowds of illegal immigrants pouring across help by George Soros and the police had lost control and she was there taking She was there with the camera and inadvertently she tripped up one of these. middle eastern refugees this was all filmed and put out and it was said that she was a white racist supremacist who was attacking these poor helpless refugees it wasn't the case at all that was just the bit that the media showed so al shabab is one of the most dangerous of the in the end cia massad created islamist psychopath groups in the world put a bounty on her head and said they were going to kill her and her family so and the hungarian police said you are not safe in hungary we can't keep you safe there's some of these people already here we don't know who they are we just know they're here so the templars got her out to northern ireland and she stayed with them for some weeks and her family until it was safe and she got a safe house somewhere else to go back to so it's already been done but anyway once they finish this uh whole house where 12 or 14 people can stay that capability will be that much stronger and in particular is very important for people from mainland britain but also actually from everywhere else northern ireland is something really really important for all people who are concerned with the rights of our people in a multicultural society enforced by a psychotically anti-us ruling elite uh you i don't blame the immigrants in all this at all it's the people who bought them here the people who've set them above us and the people who would do anything to stop us securing our own basic rights they're the real enemy here but uh anyway northern ireland is really important for everybody because they've had two communities the loyalist protestant community and the catholic republican community who at different times have both been oppressed minorities And each of those communities has found various ways in which to resist this problem, not to be swamped and demoralised and give up and be wiped out and move away.
They've developed all sorts of community strategies for keeping themselves together and making themselves strong. I'm not here talking about the bombs and the bullets and the horrors that come if this doesn't work actually. I'm talking about things like on the Catholic side they say well our young people have got to grow up to be Irish. But they're playing, this was in the 19th century. They're playing football, soccer to Americans and cricket and rugby. These are the games of the garrisons. These are The Games Of The Occupiers. These Are The Games of The English. We need Irish games! So they created the Gaelic Athletics Association and they resurrect from the dim and distant past Irish Football and Hurling or Hurley And that became a huge part of the Irish struggle against the English elite of which by the way despite the fact i'm an elster loyalist i'm absolutely on the side of the irish people who fought for their freedom against the british elite absolutely so but anyway the gaelic athletics association it's still strong the if you go to ireland you'll find by far the biggest sporting events aren't football or ice hockey or something like that they're these gaelic games they're still there that was on their side on the loyalist side They were an oppressed and endangered minority on the island of Ireland from the 1640s when they first really got there or when the Reformation took place.
And some took the Protestant side, others didn't. They were massacred in the 1650s, massacret again in 1798 when the United Irishman rebellion fell apart with Catholics murdering their Protestant neighbours and so on. So the Loyalists of Ireland, now the Loyals of Ulster. developed for instance the marching band now they used to march around with muskets on their shoulder but the british elite said we can't be doing that that's illegal so rather than fight the british elite over that they simply said all right we're not marching with muskets and rifles or swords we're marching with flutes and drums but if you can have 40 young men and they do out of 800 000 loyalists they've got at least 800 bands almost all of them young people and if you've got 50 or 60 men in a small village or in a handful of streets who come together three or four times a week to practice and train and can march in step and play all these instruments and they buy the uniforms themselves once you've got that you've actually got a militia you've got an organization which other people have if they have any sense and the catholic minority now do have sense on this they know we can't mess with those people if a community has that very peaceful expression of its identity then violent neighbours and on both sides in the northern ireland horror in the old days they've each of them been violent against their neighbours but if you've got that sort of organisation you have the capacity to replace the flutes and the drums with baseball bats or whatever or with rifles and therefore the people are left alone in the first place so you don't have to have the rifles and the baseball bats and use force just the fact that your people are capable of putting a marching band on the street and they're very good shows that you're an unorganised community which should not be messed with and it gives the community a sense of purpose and identity and the band parades where they all compete this is where their young boys meet their young girls and fight and then fall in love and get married and have children it's a thing that keeps their community together so out of all the communities of all the parts of england every single one of them where uh you know nationalists who are worried about immigration they all say we're going to be overwhelmed we're going to be swamped we're going to be destroyed everywhere except northern ireland and they say we've been a minority in this island for 450 years so what we are still here and no one is moving us because we are an organized proud community come and have a go if you want but otherwise just leave us alone and generally they're left alone so northern ireland is very important so that templar initiative of creating somewhere where young people or political people from the other parts of the united kingdom or from the united states or sweden or belgium or whatever or italy they can go there and they can learn the lessons that these two communities who've been oppressed minorities have learnt because that is what our people need to know so that even if we are minorities and a lot of people say oh no we're not a minority until 2060 we're already a minority in the whole of london the city i was born in we're already a minority in birmingham the french are already a minority in paris the germans are already a minority in berlin the swedes are already a minority in stockholm and so on and so forth so we need to start thinking about minorities and organizing to be an effective minority it's not an admission of surrender it's just realism and it's where we are right now so that's very important so before i move on to more about what local communities can do and my idea of community strong points again time for you to bounce in kerry have you got any thoughts from that that need discussing
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below right so the next the next thing well it goes back we started to experiment with these things in the british national party we did in hindsight we spent too much there was too much effort on elections although by putting that much effort into elections and terrifying the establishment for at least 10 years we did at least force the changes and especially we forced the bbc to promote nigel farage to the extent that ukip became a really big thing we got the referendum we didn't really get our brexit since then we then had any reform and the mold of british politics is totally broken So there is now opportunity for political change, even though as I said before, political change by itself will not change anything and will not save us. But nevertheless, so what we did back in the day of the BNP was important but looking in hindsight if we put say a quarter of the effort that we put into money that we're putting to electioneering into doing more to develop the community organisation things, then they...
cause of our people as a whole in britain and by dint of other people looking at us elsewhere in the white world would be that much stronger but nevertheless one of the things we did was uh in a place called caution in swindon uh it's a small town about 10 000 people uh overwhelmingly uh you know white english uh quite a few there's army bases nearby there's quite a lot of connections with the armed forces and the local police uh closed down their police station as part of the cuts and immediately the young kids of the town and it's got reasonably high unemployment and a bit of deprivation so the young kids start doing what they tend to do in roughish working class estates the police aren't there they start to misbehave and little things were getting out of hand and older people and people with young families were becoming quite scared in a town which six months before had been a very nice quiet english place so our local team there got together and said what do we do so they launched a thing called the community observation patrol they said five or six fellows couple of them ex-army and so on who would go out several times of an evening several times a week just on patrol just walk around with notebooks and cameras and it was just early enough to just late enough to have mobile phones so they're just to record any bad behavior to take notes and to ask the kids to desist now initially the local police in the from wiltshire went berserk and the political elite went wild as did the local media that this is a fascist vigilante group blah blah blah but over the course of the next few months something very interesting happened actually it was a british national party thing that was absolutely quite open i went down and did a patrol with them actually we got some quite fair publicity from the local paper out of it i put it on Substack some time ago but anyway they openly bmp and they found that the people were really enthusiastic and pleased by it and they had people coming to them saying look i wouldn't tell the police this because these are although it's in rural england it's quite a rough working class place you talk to the police you're a grass you get your windows bricked things like that people don't like people to talk to the police the police are yes people found when they left that they that there was more antisocial trouble but the police are not really well liked especially the more they become a middle class woke organization which was happening even then the less they relate to and have to do for ordinary working class communities so people were coming to them saying i wouldn't tell the police this but i'll tell you and they were quietly saying that that window was smashed last night by you know little johnny who's 14 etc now because they were well trained they didn't they go and there was no question they'd go and have words with little johnny and twist his ear because you know that's against the law etc etc and there is a particularly strong law against organising physical force for political purposes which we could have been accused of but we weren't because they were very careful so when they got a tidbit of information like that they took it to the local police in the town not that far away where they did have a police station and initially the police were wary about this after a few months they were working quite happily and accepting information from our people that was at the grassroots level and the estates were calming down and they were getting better again at which point this is quite ironic would have seen it happen since the police obviously from on high decided we can't be having this so they said we are reopening the police station so that was the end of our cops patrols because they weren't needed anymore but this citizen community observation patrol the experiment worked Now, right now there's four or five places in the United Kingdom –in Scotland as well as England where there are community observation patrols that I've had a bit to do with several of them and helping him set up, giving advice and so on.
And they're doing this very same thing. So one of them is Lancashire the other month The police dealt with that by A town which they simply ignored for several years They suddenly decided it would be the town of the month, which they would swamp. under an operation that they have once a month they pick a town and they swamp it with police to drive down anti-social behaviour so a couple of months after the community observation patrol started the police did this so these things do have an effect now that's something that any group of ordinary people can do you need now you can either have high vis vests they're cheap enough to have actually our team found that it was better not to have high vis vests because if you go out in the high vis vests then any kids who are misbehaving see these from a long way away and any group of adults who haven't got them on they know that they're not this team whereas we're going out absolutely plain clothes any group of two or three men especially could then be a community observation patrol so therefore it helps to calm things down better but in other areas i know that teams go out with high-vis vests and so on you can't have more than one item of clothing otherwise it's a uniform and then there's potential legal problems but anyway these things work and they bring a community get together and they begin to replace the police not from a political point of view from a community point of view people have people already do understand the police are not on our side they're not there primarily to protect our communities they are there to protect the state and to protect the values of the state and the goodness the good of our people often runs contrary to the values of the state police aren't our friends and the sooner people realize that the better so there's plenty more but anything further from you
there's only 10 to 12 groups doing that is there does that include that one in bournemouth i don't know the name of it but there's at
the moment there is there's a group in bournemouth i haven't got any links with them yes there's only 10 to 10 or 12 groups but i think over the next couple of years as we're going to face some really bad austerity even if they do manage to stitch together a piece of the Middle East. We don't want to go there because this isn't a political show. Even if they really do stitch together something which really does open the straits of Hormuz and the Israelis are trying very hard to stop that, there's been so much damage done to the world economy already that it's basically on a scale with the COVID-19 pandemic fast lockdowns in terms of the damage that's been done so there's more austerity coming our way it could well be under a burnham government which runs a snap election and is re-elected for five more years so in the case in the course of five more years when we are run by people who particularly hate the english but rather dislike the british in general then things with austerity on top of that things are going to get pretty bad and i hope to see these community patrols springing up in more and more places
yeah and how would that work with the police if the police are currently um you know viewing the english
as second class citizens well as long as you stick within the rules um so basically you look at what the uh community security trust do which is the jewish police the shomer in place in north london where they're fully uniformed and they're given police cars by sadiq khan and co and by the metropolitan police and they work fully but they at no stage usurp the power of the police they don't have any they never arrest people other than any power when a citizen's arrest will be actually legitimate and permitted which is very very rare that people are trained you don't arrest people you don't act on information you don't interrogate people you take it to the police you do those things you're within the law now if a political party set up something like this and wore a political uniform and was stomping around intimidating leafletists and other parties at election times they would all go to prison and actually rightly so but if a non-political community group drawn from ordinary people do it it is within the law now i would expect if this got to two or three hundred of these and they were really effective then probably a labour government or a tory government for that matter would say we're changing the law we're banning these things but that's down the line it's not now if they were to then the smarter of these people they'd find ways around it you know you can only impose the law on a community if you've got lots of police there and if the community accept it i know for sure there's a state say if you went up to a burnley or a blackburn or a leeds any any bigger english town you would find an estate where if they had any sort of popular local initiative that worked and that was declared illegal by the state and the police came in to try and stop it they would riot against the police they would simply make it clear to the police they were not welcome they would get them out and the police can't be everywhere at once in the end they'll tend to take the path of least resistance and as long as people are sensible with their community operations and this isn't an excuse just to go and stand on the edge of the muslim area and hurl abuse and cause trouble other folly like that as long as it's genuinely there to look after our people and to help the police to keep the peace then it will run for a long long time as i say if in the end it's stopped well once you've got that many people organized who are then deprived of what they see as their civil right well those people aren't going to go back to sleep are they they'll then go and find something else they'll find some way around this this is actually partly an educational process the only thing which will finally save the peoples of the west is a revolution in every sense of the word you can't have a revolution until you've got a revolutionary cadre until you've got a revolutionary experience and revolutionary feelings amongst the people before you do that you have to create a people you cannot have a revolution from the british people at present because it does not exist yeah we're millions of isolated angry dispossessed demoralized sheeple yeah and only when they started to come together and organize and sometimes come up against the state and are sometimes beaten by the state you know the uh the troubles in northern ireland really started when the local state forces attacked civil rights marches with batons and bricks and that turned peaceful civil rights marches into the embryonic ira so the state will probably overreact and they begin to create the very thing which will destroy them but we haven't got anything like that at
the moment yeah i'm very concerned that the because the men need and the boys well not really boys but you know what i mean um older boys 18 um 17 they they need to be doing more than just absolutely posting on social media because what i'm seeing is i'm seeing sort of a lot of posts of of the old english wearing the you know uh what they're called those metal armor from thousands of you know thousands of years ago and they're like yeah england and that's all they're doing the sort of letting the the releasing that angst on social media in their own house and nothing's happening and i'm like come on guys we we need the men we need the we need the males to get involved in this much more than just on social media
yeah absolutely well it is happening to a degree i've been astounded since i've been writing a lot on Substack i was getting into touch more with the new generation on x when i had a huge reach on that but it's like you know you know i was knocked off that i'm there but you know not really So, but now through Substack I'm getting in hearing every day really from some more somewhere else and there's a lot of young men From all middle-class backgrounds when I was involved in the British National Party The national front before that. I was the only middle class kid There everybody else is working class And now it's much much more thing of middle-Class people I get Middle Class youngsters I went up to Scotland on train the other day I had two different middle-class young men. one of nine about 19 the other one about 26 came up to me said mr griffin fantastic to see you etc etc etc they shouldn't even know who i am because one of them was scarcely born when the bmp was around and in the headlines and so on but they do and they're awake and you know one of them has just got married he's hoping for their first child soon etc so this generation is much better than the one that went before it who are frankly bloody useless and right now are still slumped in front of the telly watching a ridiculous uh thing of global football uh but the the youngsters are much much more switched on but there's as you say a lot more needs to be done this brings me on to another thing that what we need is what on Substack i've described as um community strong points or strong point communities and a strong point community has a community strong point which is a physical building now if you'd been in northern ireland in the 1970s say when shin fein the political wing of the ira was trying to oust the somewhat more moderate uh social democratic labour party as the representatives of the catholic working class shin fein did this primarily now they had an advantage because if ever they were short on money the ira would go and rob a bank you know little brother paddy would go and rob a bank and give them money to give them money to do what they needed to do so it was easier for them but nevertheless one of the things they did was with a little bit of that money and you could do it without robbing a bank because they're so cheap they took over a small shop they rented a small shop in one of their little very humble very poor uh shopping precincts and they opened an advice center and the Sinn Féin advice centres where Sinn Féin volunteers sat and helped local people with problems that was really the basis of Sinn Féin's community politics now in Britain we used to have citizens advice bureaus they were nearly all shut because they were funded by local councils and so cutbacks cutbacks they've all gone so there is no advice now people can ask ask mr google but mr google often gets it wrong and mr google isn't a friendly face it's not a member of your community he doesn't speak with your accent and so on so a community advice center established in a little shop is something which could be very very important now restore should be doing this rupert lowe's got 130 000 members it's ten times what the british national party had at its peak if he was putting those people to work properly he could be really important in this i've just actually written for tomorrow a Substack about this very issue uh but no sorry for today actually but i don't expect he will it doesn't really matter it just slows things down because what a community strong point should look like look like is not actually a little shop like that it should be something much bigger at the front end there should be a local charity shop and i've been into one of these not long ago in northern ireland where there was in the front there's a charity shop people bring their bricky brack to be sold there instead of in the heart foundation or the help the aging or whatever they take it to that shop because it's local and in the back there's a small gym where a couple of times a week the local lads and sometimes girls as well are there boxing and training so it keeps kids who would otherwise be lost and perhaps getting involved in trouble on the streets it keeps them doing things so that's there's nothing difficult in that nothing difficult at all and in a separate office you could have the advice center i was talking about and then in the back you have a room which is large enough for people from local groups to go and have meetings because if the community centre of the council isn't already shut it's going to be over the next couple of years because of the cutbacks where do people go then the pubs shut community centre shuts there's nowhere for our community to meet the muslims down the road have got the mosque the hindus further down the road they've got their temple our community has got a church run by a lesbian vicar who'd be horrified if ordinary working people went in there and started talking about the problems that their kids are having with a muslim grooming gang so we've got nowhere to meet this needs to be put right so towards the back of this shop and if you go down any run down high street and they all are in a working class british town you will see property after property after property suitable for this for not that much money it's more money than you and i've got personally but it's not too much money for a community an organization to get together it's cheaper than fighting and losing elections every few years put it that way so one of the things that you have in such a community center is a meeting hall with tables and chairs available and so on where all sorts of different groups can come together and meet but a couple of times a month pensioners of the area come in and they're given a meal and likewise you know young people and so on and easter christmas all the other days of our calendar year there's some kind of eating together and talking together and singing together Which is something which eating together and singing together Is one of the most fundamental human urges and needs And The people in the western world All of them, with very few exceptions Are the first people Over the last 60 years We've become the first person In human history Who have only eaten alone or with our families And who haven't sung together What damage is that doing to us in here?
it can only be huge this is absolutely fundamental you know there are there's hormones which are basically only released when you sing in a community group but people don't sing in school anymore they don't go to church they don't sing down the pub they don't sing anywhere the popularity of karaoke is just about the only shred which shows that actually this is still a human need which our people get but that could be taken care of in these local community centers and you were asking about young men so out the back in one of these there'll be a yard and in that town there'll be a fellow who's basically retired as a plumber and one is retired as an electrician and a bricklayer who's got a bad back and now only worked part-time and in that back place they can get some tools and a shelter and so on and they can once a month the bricklayer can show a group of young lads how to build a wall then they knock it down again and once a month the uh plumber and the electrician will run a thing where a few local lads it won't be hundreds of them but it's a three or four it doesn't matter three or four can come along and just get hands on trying to be a plumber or an electrician and every now and again one of them will say that's for me and then if there's an apprenticeship still running they can go and take that but if not they can learn their skill there because the community will help them now this is something that is really important i was speaking to a very bright young lad actually who's been offered a place in oxford uh university and he was say contacted me again because of Substack he said mr griffin i'd like to talk to you about this because you've written about it and so on so should i go to oxford and study uh history i was gonna say i hope it's not history or in fact you know in fact history in german or should i become a carpenter because i'm quite good at carpentry i enjoy it and i've been offered that chance so i said well i know it's going to upset your mother but really if i were you i'd go and become a carpenter because if you go to oxford and you come out at the end of three years with an enormous student loan debt and a degree in what on earth can a degree in german do for you when everybody can translate from german to english and vice versa already perfectly with their mobile phone you're utterly obsolete if you can become a historian you're qualified for two things to flip burgers in a mcdonald's or to teach history but you won't be able to teach history because you're a patriot you're a nationalist you couldn't stomach teaching the modern aversion history or if you did it would destroy your soul and ruin you so what's in this enormous student loan debt for you plus if you do that the only girls you're going to meet will be upper class spoiled feminists or diversity and inclusion uh you know special scholarships and the last thing they're interested in is a young white lad is patriotic and having children so you're never going to meet the right girl as a result of going there so don't go so we'll see what he does but coming back to your point
about young men needing to do something why i laughed about the history obviously i do you know oxford can set you up but learning history we've just been lied to so much so that's just for the viewers wondering why i'm laughing about it i wouldn't yeah i wouldn' i wouldn'T bother with history anymore and actually what the way i learned things is undercover documentaries the videos that are out there uh the websites that are not promoted that's where i'm learning my history from but please go on nick absolutely so
so between already between the idea of the woodlanders i was talking about before and the obvious fact that if a community has a property of any kind with a backyard in it then there will be older men who can teach young lads the basics of various trades and in terms of then what's good for them well for demographic reasons most plumbers carpenters electricians plasterers if you try and engage any in britain you will find the only ones you can find who are any good are generally over the age of 55 most of them are retiring some of them have come back from retirement because things are getting harder out there so they earn a bit of extra money that way but and if on the other hand you're in a university type or post-university job you're up against ai increasingly potentially on a staggering scale and you're also up against dei hires and they will always be pushed to the front doesn't matter that you're better than the pink haired nose ring lesbian she will always get the promotion before you you know and if she's disabled she'll get it even quicker and if she's of non-english stock you know even faster so you're always going to be disadvantaged but these people uh the the the lesbian punk uh the weird goth the tranny and all the different ethnic minority groups they don't do carpentry they don't do electricians a handful of the Sikhs do but nobody else does it's just there for our people and most of the people doing it at present are old and young people can do it and they'll be far better off so that's one of the things that people can do obviously young people have to also get involved in politics now lots of them are getting involved in restore and actually i've just written a thing uh and put it uh putting out very shortly saying yeah go and join restore don't think rupert lowe is going to change anything to change anything you have to have a revolution rupert lowe is an old conservative capitalist he's not going to make a revolution ever he's just the other day he's saying how he hates ethno-nationalism and so on but it doesn't matter he's got 130 000 people who present don't really know what to do and young nationalists need to get involved with that and the same is true in other countries there's other organizations like this all this upswirl of you know the populists well this is the giant recruiting grounds for nationalists who want to go and find people to do things like this community politics that i'm talking about coming further forward a community center like that well at some stage if a town has big enough problems with its non-white neighbors oh my god there's plenty heading our way we've already seen And there's some very dark forces trying to drive us to war with each other.
You know, the Zionist effort to push the British in particular to civil war with the Muslims is just huge. So they've got a reasonable chance of getting it even if they don't Just as tensions build up in a poorer and poorer country where we're increasingly a smaller and smaller part of the population you'll reach a point where ordinary decent places will say you know what? I don't want my daughter getting in her car with any minicab driver. who's not one of us I'd really like you getting in the cab driven by a middle-aged white woman because then I know she's safe so what could operate out of one of these community strong points? A minicab firm. Now if we can secure for our people through lawfare the right which every other people in the country have, the right to self associate then we can secure that legally that we have a minicab firm run by four local people by local people and the muslims can have their own minicab firms for their own people if we can't secure that right then you can't officially sell yourself as a minicab business but there's absolutely no law in britain and you can't see one being possible to say and look after each other's daughters and take a rota of driving the kids home from a party of a little bit drunk on a friday night and so on so there's no way they can stop this if our people are dedicated enough and if they want it so there's so many things i'm constantly have this thing of again younger people but some of the older ones actually saying that's all terrible we're going to be a minority we're all doing what what can we do uh if we try and fight an election even if we're going to win it they'll ban us absolutely true they did it to the vlamas bloc the most popular party in the whole of belgium when it was going to become uh potentially a government in half of belgium the state the liberal state banned it as a threat to democracy when golden dawn was getting yep when golden dawn was getting above 10 percent uh they were banned as a threat to democracy uh in slovakia when kotlaver's party were doing very well they were basically banned when the romanians had the cheek last year to vote for a president who was against war with russia the election was just cancelled and forced to have it again so yes it's absolutely true that they won't let proper nationalists proper traditionalists even proper christians come to power through the ballot box but that only matters if you think that matters the minute you say no don't worry about that there's so much so many good things we can do in our own communities by ourselves to use the irish Sinn Féin ourselves alone that's all we need
yeah because i did um post about your taxi idea and somebody said oh my local the taxi firms in our local town wouldn't allow you to do that meaning the the network of the muslims they wouldn't allow you so what so you're saying if you get in that situation just set up a group
where you're all you can just do it yeah further down the line it's an interesting thing that's uh the uh licenses to set up a to run to have a minicab these are issued by councils but a council can issue licenses for anywhere so wolverhampton which is a heavily labour and muslim council they issue um minicab licenses to muslim drivers and african drivers immigrant drivers all over the country it's money making for the council so a reform council could do the same thing now whether a reform council would i don't know what i do know is that lib dem councils around the country have taken down every last of the raise the colors flags that was put up hundreds of thousands of uh saint george cross and union flags but reform councils have refused to do so so i've got no time for nigel farage uh reform aren't going to change anything drastic but on that they're better and likewise i think that sooner or later you'd have a reform council because although they took a bit of a bloody nose against andy burnham that was a special case reform are still the up and coming sort of new conservative political force in britain and after the next election which i think burnham will probably win but we're not here to talk politics after that reform will be the biggest opposition and within a few months because of what nigel farage is and how he works there'll be people leaving reform mps and reform councils leaving reform and going off as independents and one of these mps will start to do stuff like campaigning for and asking questions in the house about indigenous rights and one of those councils will start could start issuing licenses for people to set up their own minicab firms uh and so what do people say if they if they what people mean when they say that oh the local muslims wouldn't allow it means one of two things either the muslim labor council wouldn't issue the licenses will then go to nottinghamshire council run by reform or whatever that's the first thing or the state wouldn't allow it because you can't look after it because you can't say our drivers are only for those people you can't advertise that but in a strong community you do it word of mouth that's not a problem or are they saying if that happens then the muslim drivers will come out mop-handed and smash up the cabs i think she was meaning that well if she's if she's meaning that then it's true that if she's in birmingham sparkbrook or whatever yep nothing can be done possibly if she's in pendle 60 percent then nothing can be done but if she's in clitheroe just down the road from pendle and the muslims try that well it's for the police to deal with and if the police don't deal with it the local community will deal with it simple yeah you have to you have to stand up
for your rights
Can I just say by the way Kerry that I'm doing, again plug Substack yet again. I am doing what I regard as a very important essay at the moment. I won't have it finished for a few days because its important and taking my time over it but it's about the fact that Parliamentary things get you nowhere because Parliament is just a fig leaf For the rule of the ruling elite whoever they may be used to be a fig leaf for the barons you know now it's a fig leaf for the corporations but it's always democracy is a fig leaf for the people who already have power there's only two forces of power work in fact there's only one way power comes from one source power comes from force always state has force if you refuse to pay your taxes they fine you bankrupt you and throw you in prison and if you resist the police beat you up and they take you away and if you resisted against the police strongly enough they would come and shoot you in the end the state everything they do relies on force if you're not prepared to use force you get nowhere resistance movement has to use force instead of talking about we're going to hope that rupert lowe's or nigel farage and save us through the ballot box bullshit you have to use force but this is hugely important but i'm not fed posting here don't worry there's two forms of force there's physical force and there's moral force and by moral force i'm not just talking about appealing to their better nature although that has sometimes it has a value it worked for gandhi against the british but the british in india were softer than the people crushing us but it's also things such as organising your own community patrols that's a moral force it's asserting your right to defend yourselves to look after yourselves when the state is failing so all these things i'm talking about if it's not physical force if it's not violence it doesn't involve weapons or beating people up it's moral force and you only get the right to use physical force if all moral force avenues are exhausted then actually if your community are being persecuted and potentially genocide you have a duty to use physical force but you don't have even the right let alone the duty to use it until you've exhausted all the moral force avenues and here's the wonderful thing that there's almost no one in an organized way anywhere in our world let alone in our country where our people have begun even begun to organize to use moral force in our defense and for the benefit of our communities so there's an enormous amount that can be done
is there anything in english law that shows where is it what is it that shows that the people of england can stand up against the tyrannical government
and use physical force no there's not there's when people say oh according to magna carta look it's on the basis that these laws from 13 whatever have never been rescinded so they still stand no they don't there's still a law unrescinded which says that I as an Englishman can stand on the walls of York city in northern England not that far from the Scottish border and as long as it's after dusk I can shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow don't try it you're going to go to prison now if you had half a million men prepared to march for the streets of london and say that i am a free man on the land i do not consent and all the stuff these people talk about if you've got half a million people and if the police go and try and arrest them they jump on the police and rescue the people and turn over the police cars then at that point yeah free man on the land stuff works and the idea that if you refuse to cooperate with the court i don't recognize this court you've got no right to try me i can't i know people have done this they've ended up in prison for contempt and you stay in prison until you purge your contempt until you apologise so they all do because this stuff is nonsense in the end Chairman Mao was right all political power comes out of the barrel of a gun the state has if not the barrel of a gun well they have that but they also have police truncheons and courts and unpleasant prisons so they decide what the rules are and they enforce them and unless and until you can apply sufficient organization and moral force to resist that they will simply steamroll you so anyone who's watching this has been taken in by you know the free man on the land stuff it's a lovely theory and say if it mobilized half a million men it'd be a great theory but stick by it at present and you will lose what you're trying to defend you'll be bankrupted and you'll go to prison for nothing we're not we're not like america yeah we we have a bill of rights but our bill of rights from 1689 says that we have not just a right but a duty to keep ourselves armed and organized ready to defend the monarch and the protestant faith if i kept more than a pea shooter in my house i'd be breaking the law with a five-year prison sentence so no we don't have the americans your people in america you're extraordinarily lucky you're still just about clinging on to the free speech amendment just about although donald trump not long ago uh gave the pass the executive order whereby you can't criticize criticize israel israel isionism so you only just got it but most important of all you've still got the second amendment the right to bear arms and as long as you've got that then all sorts of nasty things will happen in america but you will not be you won't suffer the fate that people in many other parts of the world are facing you won't become the new boors that's for sure that's
where um england's gone wrong is letting them take their arms away indeed um well
it's it's one of the things there again a people who were healthy and wide awake they wouldn't have let them take their arms away the americans wouldn't sure as hell they wouldn't yeah um a
i know that we talked about this before i think that is that uk is going to become an islamic nation by about 2050 2060 and you said you didn't think so what kind of if you were to compare england or the uk to another country in the world now in 2050 2060 what country would you compare england to be like well i would say
the figure is going to be we're probably going to be about eight million muslims by that stage with a british population an indigenous real british population of well it's no more than 50 million now it'll be much lower than that 35 million 30 million and they'll still be younger than us but their population growth rate is dropping very rapidly unless there's a huge new influx it won't go up that much more and all the signs are the new influence the new influx which is heading the way of the west whether it's courtesy of people like uh jd vance or or niger forage or donald trump or elon musk the new influx is going to be hindus millions and millions of hindus and europe as a whole is going to get millions and millions of africans because they're the only ones still having lots and lots of children so we are going to be the minority so what will we look like probably not like brazil because in brazil there's this extraordinarily close correlation between skin colour and wealth so it's a little bit more like an indian system in a modern way basically it's caste so it's not really different we haven't got an example of what we're going to look like because this hasn't happened white people haven't become the largest minority of all in any country ever in modern history uh south africa isn't a good example because whites were a tiny minority and they're now an extraordinarily small minority up against uh in each area is just there's one black tribe or it's the shona or the matabele whoever it is in their patch uh the zulus or whatever their patch is just that tribe bang that's off so they're a tiny minority against a massive majority of the same people we are going to be the largest minority by far of all the minorities and so we don't know what it's going to be like other than arguably russia not the little bit of sort of european russia but the whole of the russian empire which is now russia from near kiev to vladivostok on the pacific that has a large number of russians but it's also got huge numbers of other ethnic groups and actually they get on quite well despite the efforts of the cia and the west and george soros etc to set the non-whites and the muslims at the throats of the christians and the white russians so it's not it's not the end of the world the only other one you could perhaps say and it's a it's a much more painful example uh would be the lebanon or syria where they were multi-ethnic multi-confessional states where people weren't they didn't integrate they didn't say oh because of past historical wrongs we've got to give your community lots of money and so on they kept themselves to themselves and they lived generally in peace so they they married their own they uh they had their own kids they buried their own but they traded together and so on now that of course was torn apart by first of all western imperialism particularly the french and then by the zionists so they had ghastly civil wars since but innately those societies worked for a very long period of time where everybody was a minority and that's that's where we're heading um it's quite simple either if we're a disorganized large minority we're just going to keep on paying the taxes and supplying the girls for the rape gangs and being spat upon by everybody if we're an organized confident minority of minorities we will still rule the roost because all the others are smaller than us and for all that some of them hate us they all hate each other far more so there's not really i don't want to see it but it's not a problem which is something absolutely ghastly there's no way out of this oh my god i couldn't possibly bring children into this world that's the real danger our people are so demoralized by all this that you know they simply stop breeding and then we disappear you know you just you disappear 30 years later if you if your kids haven't had kids you disappear for 40 years because that's it you don't disappear for 70 years after that because the the little ones who were born there's still of them left until they're 85 or 90 but if our people if our young people stop having children then we're in serious trouble and at present our numbers are very very low yes most of the minorities they're coming down towards us but we have to reverse that come back to the one last point about the uh the community strong points one of the things they should all do is have a mothers and toddlers group and a storeroom where when a family has stopped they say right we've had our kids now you know too old we're not having any more that's where the pram goes that's where the nice clean decent baby clothes go and so on and they're there for the next young girl in that area who comes pregnant and there we are that's our community to your baby because we value your you and your baby that's got to be done too there's so many things that can be done once we've got these community strong points we could have them
within a year oh can i interrupt that that's a good point actually because yes rather than giving your old baby clothes just to the local charity shop you could give it to yes to encourage people who think they can't afford to have babies and children you could give it to the people in actual groups that you're talking about setting it up, give all the clothes the pram
Kerry there's just one a tiny but good example of the things once you have this institution in place you're then able to address any problem or any opportunity which your community encounters you can deal with it from this community thing it's why why it's so important so to finish off i will say that the incredible thing about britain right now is if rupert lowe decided tomorrow that how i won in how he won in great yarmouth when he won for americans this insurgent far-right politician won an incredible victory they could have halved the votes that they got in the great yarmouth council and they would still have won every seat that they won that was the swamping size of it but in makerfield in the the british national party took more than that in that constituency in the 2010 election with about 1 40th of the money invested in it so they didn't do well in that but in great yarmouth lowe did very well because he's a damn good constituency mp and because he had local teams of local great yarmouth first people who were yarmouth independents with the community network even before they joined him so if he were to say right in every region in britain we're going to pick a constituency where we've got rather all members than most every single constituency in britain at present they've got hundreds of members doing nothing you can say right we're going to pick go around the constituencies and out of one in each region the one which can raise the most money which has the most members which has the best most live wire people who come to us for training events and so on we are going to help them buy a community center in that constituency and we're going to train people to run them and we're going to make those regional training centres for politics and for things like how to run a community observation patrol how to set up a an unofficial apprenticeship scheme lowe's done good work with apprenticeships talking about them in parliament he gets the issue but this could be bought right down locally and for half a million pounds each he could set up one of those and run it for three or four years to get it going so last year he took two million pounds in memberships alone and the members get nothing for that it's pure profit sat there and he raised six hundred thousand pounds to fund the very very good uh grooming independent grooming gang's inquiry very good so lowe has the capacity easily to raise five million pounds very very easily the bmp raised a million pounds in our biggest election so low and co can raise far more than that five million pounds would buy ten of these centers and if he did that come the next election a parliamentary constituency with one of those centers in it and all these things radiating out from radiating out from it it would be like a new great yarmouth and low would win those seats So he should do it.
I don't believe he will because he's not a revolutionary. If he doesn't, we just had to do it the hard way ourselves alone. And at that, Kerry, thank you for a fantastic platform and allowing me to wrap it on. I hope you've enjoyed it more important. I hope that your listeners, viewers, especially those in Britain really take it on board. Thank you for the opportunity. I look forward to speaking with you again fairly soon. I believe you've got a couple of questions, haven't you? Do you want to crack through those?
i do yeah everybody i'll put nick's Substack below his x and his youtube channel i'll collab with him on that so you can give him a follow because obviously he's giving out really good advice like this and nick now we will just go answer the paid members questions in the Substack okay so lionel eddie who's a journalist at iconic media which is david ike's iconic yep yep publication and youtube channel he's an expert in surveillance technology which is obviously coming in big time in the uk and ireland and everywhere yes i mean you've kind of already answered this in our interview just then but he asked is there a two-tier system in the uk and should the sudanese man who committed the knife murder in northern ireland belfast and tried to behead uh steven allegedly allegedly of course yes very well spotted um should he be deported or should he stay in prison locally up there right is there two sisters is there two-tier policing
absolutely this is two-tier everything we are second or third class citizens in our own country it's as simple as that uh should he be uh deported or should he be made to serve his time in prison no he should be executed he's found guilty he should be hung but unfortunately what should happen and what will happen are two very different things and political figures have come on and they all do this i used to to a degree come on and say we'll do this we will and everyone cheers it's nothing like as useful as what you've just allowed to happen in terms of giving people concrete things which actually make a difference because just because something should happen doesn't mean it will happen unless you make it happen
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